The Findlay fans were leaving the stadium, leaving in droves, because they thought the game was over. One of the assistant coaches came up to me and said, 'You better think of two plays because we only have time for two plays.' We had no timeouts left.

I'm just a little disappointed he didn't give me credit for the tackle.

In his junior year, we needed him to play receiver to win our first league championship in about 15 years. We've won three more since then.

That's why nobody understands it. Everyone has said, 'Hey, if Ben doesn't make that tackle in Indianapolis, the game is over.' And I said, not if Ben gets the ball back. Because we've seen him do it.

Both of them had to play, that was a no-brainer.

I tell them, anything better than this is a bonus.

I always tell the quarterback, we don't want you to make a big tackle, just get in his way, trip him, do whatever you have to do to get in his way.